Dreamwidth
Yeah, I've got a Dreamwidth account. It's ![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
mneme (no, no x. The x is a disambiguator).
I've heard a lot of alarmist "why is everyone going away" bits, so I figured it was worth explaining what -I- like about Dreamwidth -- at least in concept.
First and foremost, I'm not planning on leaving LJ or the LJ community. But that's part of the point. Among the tools and improvements DW has promised are features (some implemented, like journal import [though...is that disabled atm?] and journal crossposting and better OpenID suport, some not, like the ability to embed your friends page on other lj-like sites in your friends page for DW if you want) that let the "community" spread beyond a single site -- and isn't that the point? Why -should- we lose access to our friends posts or have to follow them with Yet Another Login whenever they move sites? Why should our communities be owned by an external entity -- rather than merely hosted by them?
So, I don't want everyone leaving lj and going to dw instead. I want a world where people post wherever they want -- and I can be part of their community if they're "my people" anyway. But supporting DW is a step in that direction -- hopefully a very large part.
Second, they seem to have a good, sustainable plan not involving selling out their principles or assuming large bags of cash will fall from the sky.
Third, their attitudes are more or less a direct response to a lot of the ljfail we've seen over the last few years; not "everyone gets to see everything", but "we can handle adult/spam/financial issues without treating our users as criminals or children."
Fourth? LJ used to regularly come out with new features -- you know, ones I used. But over the last few years, that has slowed to a crawl or less -- instead, all their new features seem to be things that benefit someone else (like advertisers, or whatnot)...which might be fine except that features -I- want; ones that make it easier to communicate with people, seem to not happen. DW, in a small number of months, has implemented a huge set of my wantlist for LJ (not least: separating "access" and "readlist" and getting rid of the "friend" designation), plans to implement a lot more, and in general, has proven very response to suggestions.
So yeah, I have a DW account. But don't worry, I won't be going anywhere.
mneme (no, no x. The x is a disambiguator).I've heard a lot of alarmist "why is everyone going away" bits, so I figured it was worth explaining what -I- like about Dreamwidth -- at least in concept.
First and foremost, I'm not planning on leaving LJ or the LJ community. But that's part of the point. Among the tools and improvements DW has promised are features (some implemented, like journal import [though...is that disabled atm?] and journal crossposting and better OpenID suport, some not, like the ability to embed your friends page on other lj-like sites in your friends page for DW if you want) that let the "community" spread beyond a single site -- and isn't that the point? Why -should- we lose access to our friends posts or have to follow them with Yet Another Login whenever they move sites? Why should our communities be owned by an external entity -- rather than merely hosted by them?
So, I don't want everyone leaving lj and going to dw instead. I want a world where people post wherever they want -- and I can be part of their community if they're "my people" anyway. But supporting DW is a step in that direction -- hopefully a very large part.
Second, they seem to have a good, sustainable plan not involving selling out their principles or assuming large bags of cash will fall from the sky.
Third, their attitudes are more or less a direct response to a lot of the ljfail we've seen over the last few years; not "everyone gets to see everything", but "we can handle adult/spam/financial issues without treating our users as criminals or children."
Fourth? LJ used to regularly come out with new features -- you know, ones I used. But over the last few years, that has slowed to a crawl or less -- instead, all their new features seem to be things that benefit someone else (like advertisers, or whatnot)...which might be fine except that features -I- want; ones that make it easier to communicate with people, seem to not happen. DW, in a small number of months, has implemented a huge set of my wantlist for LJ (not least: separating "access" and "readlist" and getting rid of the "friend" designation), plans to implement a lot more, and in general, has proven very response to suggestions.
So yeah, I have a DW account. But don't worry, I won't be going anywhere.
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The Friend -> Subscribe/Access change alone is enough to make me consider migrating over here, and the OpenID support looks like it'll do its job.
My only migration question is if there's a reasonable way for LJ people to see a DW account in their friends page and leave comments in a manner that works and isn't a huge hassle and doesn't create hours of lag before they see things/before comments replicate.
The development model they're describing is interesting enough that I want to follow what happens as they add new features even if I don't migrate over here in any part for myself.
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I'm curious how they're implementing their reading list so it works seamlessly in the other direction, and whether LJ will accept that patch. It's kind of hard to say, "Hey, LJ, take this patch so I can leave you and stop being a free user burden, while still contributing to your community so it encourages paid users to stick around/new people to become paid users."
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The other way shouldn't require a patch. LJ already will ship authenticated users rss feeds of their friends lists, so if you're willing to give dreamwidth your lj auth data (needed for crossposting anyway), they have all the stuff aside from code needed to grab your lj friends feed and treat it as a data source for your friends page.
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This reading-list as an OpenID user thing is a little odd. I've noticed there are two versions of the current post if I go to your DW journal, but only the one we're not talking on appears in my reading list. (In fact, that post is the *only* thing currently in my reading list, though that may be because I'm not following any other users here on DW yet.)
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The reason that one appears in your reading list (not for long -- this is the version that has comments, so this is the version that is staying!) is because it's not backdated (I think DW has a different name for backdated posts, but don't remember what it was) -- as imported entries are.
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[I'm curious if reading lists for OpenID users can include journals not hosted at dw. It let me add my own OpenID to my reading list, but I haven't gotten around to posting to lj to see if it works as expected. It'll just be interesting to see what it does.]
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